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Post by Sawblade300 on Oct 7, 2021 10:03:56 GMT -5
Wrong. The sliders are most important if creating the PB from scratch. Especially when wanting to target certain players, distances, formations and the like. The big key is to set the threshold to 0 or 1 to make sure you're getting plays closest to your OC scheme. DONT USE THE SLIDERS!
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Post by davehibb on Oct 7, 2021 10:08:25 GMT -5
murph, julioriddols, Sawblade300, when you guys say you 'create' the plays, is that you creating the play from scratch, choosing the targets/routes/qb depth/protection from scratch for each play, or do you mean USING THE SLIDERS to get a bunch of plays that you want?
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Post by clown on Oct 7, 2021 10:09:22 GMT -5
Wrong. The sliders are most important if creating the PB from scratch. Especially when wanting to target certain players, distances, formations and the like. The big key is to set the threshold to 0 or 1 to make sure you're getting plays closest to your OC scheme. DONT USE THE SLIDERS! FIXED IT!CLOWN CANT WORK THE SLIDERS
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Post by murph on Oct 7, 2021 10:25:22 GMT -5
I create plays from scratch. There are many route combinations I like that I want in the playbook.
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Post by Sawblade300 on Oct 7, 2021 10:29:43 GMT -5
murph , julioriddols , Sawblade300 , when you guys say you 'create' the plays, is that you creating the play from scratch, choosing the targets/routes/qb depth/protection from scratch for each play, or do you mean USING THE SLIDERS to get a bunch of plays that you want? Both. I'll use the sliders to create plays to fit the scheme and then I'll create from certain plays from scratch that I want to add in.
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Post by julioriddols on Oct 7, 2021 10:33:53 GMT -5
Creating the play from scratch. The run plays go quickly, the pass plays really don't take a whole lot of time either as long as I approach things with a good organized plan for how I want to do stuff.
I want to make sure I get exactly what I want in there, so I have to do it myself as the old saying goes.
When it comes to trying to manage scheme fits, the only route that seems to matter for scheme fit is the primary, so secondary routes are a good way to fit in routes that you might be limited on otherwise. QB depth, personnel, formation, amount of blockers, play action/no play action, and primary route are all the things that have an effect on the scheme fit. Tweaking them around, eventually you will become accustomed to what kind of things go with what kinds of offenses. West Coast likes to have all their players out on routes and isn't big on intermediate passing or running from heavy formations. Erhardt-Perkins is more friendly to keeping guys in to block and likes throws to the TE spots, Coryell is like a smash mouth scheme that you can pass more freely from with more intermediate downfield stuff.
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Post by julioriddols on Oct 7, 2021 10:44:38 GMT -5
Also, with "extreme" schemes like Coryell, Erhardt, Smashmouth and Spread, don't try too hard to get "best" fits, you'll mostly be shooting for solids unless you are in that scheme's wheelhouse. Most of the best fits in the main personnel groupings are reserved for WCO and Balanced offenses.
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Post by davehibb on Oct 7, 2021 10:48:10 GMT -5
Also, with "extreme" schemes like Coryell, Erhardt, Smashmouth and Spread, don't try too hard to get "best" fits, you'll mostly be shooting for solids unless you are in that scheme's wheelhouse. Most of the best fits in the main personnel groupings are reserved for WCO and Balanced offenses. Yeah, when I have looked into it or even created a GP from a generated PB, I always make sure every play is best fit or solid. Sawblade300, murph, julioriddols, thanks for the replies guys, lots of food for thought and hours of painstaking work ahead
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Post by Sawblade300 on Oct 7, 2021 10:49:59 GMT -5
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Post by KO on Oct 7, 2021 11:41:57 GMT -5
I'm working on a new playbook now with a specific philosophy in mind. It will be interesting to see how bad we are next season when using this.
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Post by landshark44 on Oct 7, 2021 14:42:34 GMT -5
when i built mine.. i use the same one in three leagues....
i just loaded up 200 random plays.... and edited all of them..
i'd take a 104xzy345, and change the whole play to something i liked 113yzx532 i started doing all 113- then moved to 122- 212-
10-15 at a time til it was time for training camp... save
editmore/save and load up when my next team (CFL, USFL) gets to training camp... over the course of a couple seasons i edited all of them.
following the stuff others have said... ability to run out of any formation... all my receivers can run any route from formations i like (113 122 212 203 104) not much in my playbook from the other formations...
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Post by davehibb on Oct 8, 2021 2:16:06 GMT -5
This is probably dumb question time... Just for a change...
Can't you edit plays once they are in your gameplan?
I tried quickly last night to edit a few plays, adjusting QB depth, adding protection and changing alignments to make plays best fit but when i hit confirm the changes didn't take and I couldn't rename them either.
An afterthought was that perhaps I couldn't edit/save them as I was probably up to the max in terms of my OCs play limit, or can't you edit things in your GP?
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Post by clown on Oct 8, 2021 8:10:06 GMT -5
I thought you could add 10 plays a week but they dont save? Just going on memory here
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Post by Sawblade300 on Oct 8, 2021 8:50:25 GMT -5
This is probably dumb question time... Just for a change... Can't you edit plays once they are in your gameplan? I tried quickly last night to edit a few plays, adjusting QB depth, adding protection and changing alignments to make plays best fit but when i hit confirm the changes didn't take and I couldn't rename them either. An afterthought was that perhaps I couldn't edit/save them as I was probably up to the max in terms of my OCs play limit, or can't you edit things in your GP? If it's during the season, you can add/change up to 10 or 12 plays per week. But once the week changes over to the next week, those changes are lost and the PB reverts back to it's original. UNLESS...you ask the commish to upload your PB. Then the changes will stay, I'm pretty sure this is how this works. If I'm wrong, someone can correct me.
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Post by davehibb on Oct 8, 2021 9:10:27 GMT -5
This is probably dumb question time... Just for a change... Can't you edit plays once they are in your gameplan? I tried quickly last night to edit a few plays, adjusting QB depth, adding protection and changing alignments to make plays best fit but when i hit confirm the changes didn't take and I couldn't rename them either. An afterthought was that perhaps I couldn't edit/save them as I was probably up to the max in terms of my OCs play limit, or can't you edit things in your GP? If it's during the season, you can add/change up to 10 or 12 plays per week. But once the week changes over to the next week, those changes are lost and the PB reverts back to it's original. UNLESS...you ask the commish to upload your PB. Then the changes will stay, I'm pretty sure this is how this works. If I'm wrong, someone can correct me. Ahhhhhh... So you make the changes in the PB and not the GP? I was trying to edit plays in the GP. I guess that's why the changes didn't take.
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