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Post by hildebrand on Sept 27, 2021 18:12:25 GMT -5
1st ballot is best of the best right? We saw Benzer play with Dunn and Dunn was clearly better. So by that logic, if the player isn't as good as Dunn, he doesn't make it. So...Dunn is the 1st ballot bar? That's it? You're not Dunn, you're not in. Pack your bags and go back home. Actually, I don't know why I'm commenting. I'm not on the committee. I just read this every year and keep to myself. But I've seen this pattern of "best of the best" and thought it was a bit strict. So if Benzer put up those stats on another team as a #1 WR...is he 1st ballot? We can always use more people on the committee. You should join. Everyone has there own take on 1st ballot. Benzer would be 1st ballot for me. There's a clear cut top 3 WRs in league history: Benzer, Dunn, and Sinclair. Dunn and Sinclair were 1st ballot. Benzer has to be too.
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Post by Sawblade300 on Sept 27, 2021 18:38:29 GMT -5
So by that logic, if the player isn't as good as Dunn, he doesn't make it. So...Dunn is the 1st ballot bar? That's it? You're not Dunn, you're not in. Pack your bags and go back home. Actually, I don't know why I'm commenting. I'm not on the committee. I just read this every year and keep to myself. But I've seen this pattern of "best of the best" and thought it was a bit strict. So if Benzer put up those stats on another team as a #1 WR...is he 1st ballot? We can always use more people on the committee. You should join. Everyone has there own take on 1st ballot. Benzer would be 1st ballot for me. There's a clear cut top 3 WRs in league history: Benzer, Dunn, and Sinclair. Dunn and Sinclair were 1st ballot. Benzer has to be too. If you put him in the same group as those other two...yes. Regardless of who he played with.
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Post by ManWithNoName on Sept 27, 2021 18:53:16 GMT -5
So by that logic, if the player isn't as good as Dunn, he doesn't make it. So...Dunn is the 1st ballot bar? That's it? You're not Dunn, you're not in. Pack your bags and go back home. Actually, I don't know why I'm commenting. I'm not on the committee. I just read this every year and keep to myself. But I've seen this pattern of "best of the best" and thought it was a bit strict. So if Benzer put up those stats on another team as a #1 WR...is he 1st ballot? We can always use more people on the committee. You should join. Everyone has there own take on 1st ballot. Benzer would be 1st ballot for me. There's a clear cut top 3 WRs in league history: Benzer, Dunn, and Sinclair. Dunn and Sinclair were 1st ballot. Benzer has to be too. I think you left Grayvil out just to piss me off.
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Post by hildebrand on Sept 27, 2021 18:59:31 GMT -5
We can always use more people on the committee. You should join. Everyone has there own take on 1st ballot. Benzer would be 1st ballot for me. There's a clear cut top 3 WRs in league history: Benzer, Dunn, and Sinclair. Dunn and Sinclair were 1st ballot. Benzer has to be too. I think you left Grayvil out just to piss me off. Who?
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Post by ezlee2 on Sept 28, 2021 8:15:36 GMT -5
The HITMAN!
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Post by Nick on Sept 28, 2021 9:36:20 GMT -5
1st ballot is best of the best right? We saw Benzer play with Dunn and Dunn was clearly better. So by that logic, if the player isn't as good as Dunn, he doesn't make it. So...Dunn is the 1st ballot bar? That's it? You're not Dunn, you're not in. Pack your bags and go back home. Actually, I don't know why I'm commenting. I'm not on the committee. I just read this every year and keep to myself. But I've seen this pattern of "best of the best" and thought it was a bit strict. So if Benzer put up those stats on another team as a #1 WR...is he 1st ballot? I would say yes to that question. It doesn't sit well with 1st ballot status when another guy on your team out played you, yet on any other team with those stats he makes it. It's a tricky one for me. Sometimes I post stuff for effect, rather than necessarily believing it. It was more of a question. I am on the fence as to his 1st ballot status, need to give it further consideration.
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Post by ezlee2 on Sept 28, 2021 10:47:14 GMT -5
I don't really care what you guys decide as I put little to no stock into this outside of pure entertainment purposes, but if Benzer is not a 1st ballot HOFer with those stats (I could care less that he was on my team) then the entire process is a joke.
Numbers are numbers plain and simple. Doesn't matter how you got them or who you got them with. The stats don't lie and at the end of the day should be the #1 factor.
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Post by clown on Sept 28, 2021 10:52:01 GMT -5
So WE CAN Lobby for our boys! !!!!!! Because that is the only reason I would show up for this Club house meeting!
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Post by ezlee2 on Sept 28, 2021 10:53:56 GMT -5
So WE CAN Lobby for our boys! !!!!!! Because that is the only reason I would show up for this Club house meeting! That's how the NFL does it right? Each team has someone from their local media present their case for the player. It makes sense as they know them better than the guys from other markets.
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Post by Nick on Sept 28, 2021 11:50:35 GMT -5
I don't really care what you guys decide as I put little to no stock into this outside of pure entertainment purposes, but if Benzer is not a 1st ballot HOFer with those stats (I could care less that he was on my team) then the entire process is a joke. Numbers are numbers plain and simple. Doesn't matter how you got them or who you got them with. The stats don't lie and at the end of the day should be the #1 factor. You sound like Simon. It is a democratic process and things won't go your way just because you want them to or think they should.
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Post by clown on Sept 28, 2021 12:41:55 GMT -5
HOF is such a mind game! Burn the Witches!
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Post by ezlee2 on Sept 28, 2021 15:54:48 GMT -5
I don't really care what you guys decide as I put little to no stock into this outside of pure entertainment purposes, but if Benzer is not a 1st ballot HOFer with those stats (I could care less that he was on my team) then the entire process is a joke. Numbers are numbers plain and simple. Doesn't matter how you got them or who you got them with. The stats don't lie and at the end of the day should be the #1 factor. You sound like Simon. It is a democratic process and things won't go your way just because you want them to or think they should. Not at all, but I'm not going to sit here and let you trash Benzer because he played with Dunn. I could give a shit less about the Hall of Fame as voted by the GMs in regards to his legacy. Benzer is not just an RZB legend, but one of the greats in of the FOF MP universe as well. I'm not saying he's the G.O.A.T. but he was a VERY special player and I'm not gonna let you, Simon or the guy down the street speak otherwise of a legend.
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Post by clown on Sept 28, 2021 16:08:15 GMT -5
You sound like Simon. It is a democratic process and things won't go your way just because you want them to or think they should. Not at all, but I'm not going to sit here and let you trash Benzer because he played with Dunn. I could give a shit less about the Hall of Fame as voted by the GMs in regards to his legacy. Benzer is not just an RZB legend, but one of the greats in of the FOF MP universe as well. I'm not saying he's the G.O.A.T. but he was a VERY special player and I'm not gonna let you, Simon or the guy down the street speak otherwise of a legend.
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Post by Nick on Sept 28, 2021 16:08:20 GMT -5
You sound like Simon. It is a democratic process and things won't go your way just because you want them to or think they should. Not at all, but I'm not going to sit here and let you trash Benzer because he played with Dunn. I could give a shit less about the Hall of Fame as voted by the GMs in regards to his legacy. Benzer is not just an RZB legend, but one of the greats in of the FOF MP universe as well. I'm not saying he's the G.O.A.T. but he was a VERY special player and I'm not gonna let you, Simon or the guy down the street speak otherwise of a legend. He will get a fair shot like everyone else, if he doesn't make it, he isn't good enough. Just like all the other guys who didn't make first ballot. Nobody else moans when their guy doesn't make, so if it happens I would encourage you to take it like a man.
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Post by ManWithNoName on Sept 28, 2021 16:12:06 GMT -5
You sound like Simon. It is a democratic process and things won't go your way just because you want them to or think they should. and I'm not gonna let you, Simon or the guy down the street speak otherwise of a legend.
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