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Post by ezlee2 on Feb 24, 2019 13:11:27 GMT -5
BTW, It's Corwin Cowley. Corwin Conley is my stud LT.  |
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Post by Nick on Feb 24, 2019 13:26:35 GMT -5
Just digging into this a bit more really showcases how special Cowley's season is and may never be repeated: Only one other RB has ever had over 1,000 yards receiving. Interestingly enough it happened this year with the Rams Jared Thomas, but he only had 800 yards rushing. The top 5 receiving totals are listed below: 1. 2033- Corwin Cowley - 142 receptions for 1,297 yards with 7 TDs - 5.84 ypt 2. 2033 -Jared Thomas - 94 receptions for 1,005 yards with 7 TDs - 6.9 ypt 3. 2032 - Corwin Cowley -129 receptions for 940 yards with 3 TDs - 4.48 ypt 4. 2024- Peter Chamberlain- 96 receptions for 909 yards with 6 TDs -7.10 ypt 5. 2025- Peter Chamberlain- 81 receptions for 852 yards with 4 TDs - 7.34 ypt Cowley smashed his own record and had over 1,200 rushing too. Sorry, but IMO that is what an OPTY is all about. I agree that the game will make Abeykoon the MVP, but we're talking about a truly incredible offensive season that may never be replicated again. We've seen plenty of players do what he did this year. So Cowley had 289 rushing attempts for 1,225 yards, 7 rushing TDs with a 4.24 ypc to go along with 149 catches, 1,297 yards receiving and 7 TDs. Oh, and with all those touches he only had one fumble this year too.  I don't think it is special at all. 1200 rushing isn't a big deal and neither is 4.24 ypc. Basically he just got thrown the ball a lot. Any bum can have a lot of balls thrown at him. 5.84 ypt is very average. For me a great receiver is one who does a lot with the opportunities he is given. He didn't actually do anything that impressed me. If we go this route someone just has loads of balls thrown at him and regardless of his success he is deemed OPOY? Not getting that. This is why guys have not made the HOF, ypt tells a story. Much like passer rating I will view ypt as a key stat. |
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Post by ezlee2 on Feb 24, 2019 13:30:23 GMT -5
You need to take into account the position Nick and the lack of playmakers that Carolina had this year. In fact. 1,297 yard smashed the previous best for a season in Carolina. Sorry, but you cannot deny that having 1,200 yards rushing and receiving is a special year and may never be duplicated again. He's not the MVP, but he's most certainly worthy of this award.
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Post by Nick on Feb 24, 2019 13:42:35 GMT -5
You need to take into account the position Nick and the lack of playmakers that Carolina had this year. In fact. 1,297 yard smashed the previous best for a season in Carolina. Sorry, but you cannot deny that having 1,200 yards rushing and receiving is a special year and may never be duplicated again. He's not the MVP, but he's most certainly worthy of this award. I'm not impressed. Not saying your wrong, it just comes down to opinion. I would take the 2 Chamberlain seasons and Thomas' over Cowley. He just happened to have a lot of balls thrown at him. I don't see that deserves special honours if he didn't do anything special with the opportunity. Take my WR Henry 1666 yards, at 9.86 ypt and 14 TDs. That is a great season to me. I could have manufactured what you would see an MVP season simply by putting some more targets in. He gets 2000 yards 18 TDs and a ypt around 8.25. I would take quality of quantity every time, I would rather have the 9.86 ypt. Rickey Davison has the worst ypt in the top 30 or so all-time WRs as Seb consistently over targeted him. I will never vote for him in the HOF process as his ypt doesn't cut it. I know Wes drools over him, but I guess that is the whole point of having multiple viewpoints. People will see things differently. I sincerely believe a GM should aim to maximise yards per passing attempt, it stands to reason the more you gain every time you drop back the better. Low ypt is simply failure to me. |
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Post by ezlee2 on Feb 24, 2019 13:44:00 GMT -5
I would agree if it's a WR, but RBs don't normally produce a high ypt
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Post by ezlee2 on Feb 24, 2019 13:44:50 GMT -5
Also, the production did not correlate to wins, but I couldn't believe the stats. Maybe, it's the fantasy footballer in me.
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Post by Nick on Feb 28, 2019 15:20:09 GMT -5
Poll is now open. Every player on the list has a nickname, how about that.
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Post by ezlee2 on Feb 28, 2019 15:25:36 GMT -5
Team Cowley all the way!
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Post by CMax on Mar 1, 2019 4:56:44 GMT -5
You need to take into account the position Nick and the lack of playmakers that Carolina had this year. In fact. 1,297 yard smashed the previous best for a season in Carolina. Sorry, but you cannot deny that having 1,200 yards rushing and receiving is a special year and may never be duplicated again. He's not the MVP, but he's most certainly worthy of this award. I'm not impressed. Not saying your wrong, it just comes down to opinion. I would take the 2 Chamberlain seasons and Thomas' over Cowley. He just happened to have a lot of balls thrown at him. I don't see that deserves special honours if he didn't do anything special with the opportunity. Take my WR Henry 1666 yards, at 9.86 ypt and 14 TDs. That is a great season to me. I could have manufactured what you would see an MVP season simply by putting some more targets in. He gets 2000 yards 18 TDs and a ypt around 8.25. I would take quality of quantity every time, I would rather have the 9.86 ypt. Rickey Davison has the worst ypt in the top 30 or so all-time WRs as Seb consistently over targeted him. I will never vote for him in the HOF process as his ypt doesn't cut it. I know Wes drools over him, but I guess that is the whole point of having multiple viewpoints. People will see things differently. I sincerely believe a GM should aim to maximise yards per passing attempt, it stands to reason the more you gain every time you drop back the better. Low ypt is simply failure to me. I have to agree with Nick on this one. Cowley was targeted 222 times and carried the ball another 289 times. His target/reception percentage was meh. Bottom line is that he was 50% of their offense and wasn't dominant in any way. He was simply used a ton. Maybe he deserves MDP (most durable player). |
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Post by julioriddols on Mar 1, 2019 7:15:23 GMT -5
I voted for Abeykoon just to keep Cowley from getting the award. I agree with nick that his efficiency wasn't the greatest and his rushing numbers aren't anything special. He just reaped the benefits of being the primary target in his teams offense by a large degree. I hope for Croteau's sake that the team finds him some other weapons to throw to though, he desperately needs someone in the receiving corps to step up. I think Cowley is capable of winning this award in the future, he has the talent. I just think Abeykoon was more effective and his team obviously had more success as well.
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