Detroit Lions 2059 Draft Class
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Oct 25, 2023 13:52:53 GMT -5
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Post by Bighouserulez on Oct 25, 2023 13:52:53 GMT -5
After a shit show season that i cannot explain at all we move into the draft with the 4th pick overall. I could have held it and gotten 4 latter round 1st picks as the QB fell(happy for Cmax for sure he was freaking bust this draft season) but i dropped 4 spots and got a future 1st and 2nd and still got the player we wanted.
1 - 8 (8) Detroit * Wes (online) Tracy Houghtlin RB Stanford
Pre TC Ratings-56/68 Looks like we thought i had him at 72 rated.
POst TC -+4/-1 to 60/67 LIke this kid a TON
Post PRe2-+4/-3 to 60/65 Starting RB and pretty excited to see what he does for us this year
POst TC2-+9/-3 to 65/65 Bonified starter that we are hoping to take the next step for the offense this year.
POst PRe2-+9/-3 to 65/65 Still the same good looking kid
EOS2-+9/-3 to 65 Needs to take the next step and get more carries 2300 total yards in 2 years and 17 touchdowns
Post Pre2.3-+9/-3 to 65 Still the bonified starter for us
Date of Birth: 2036-12-23
School: Stanford
Height: 6' 2" (Way Above Average)
Weight: 216 lbs. (Average)
Solecismic Score: 37
40 Time: 4.43
Bench Reps: 19
Agility: 7.11
Broad Jump: 9' 11"
Position Drill: 40
Grade: 7.30
Developed: 67
First thoughts-WE had to let Jay go in the offseason and we wish him the best but as soon as this draft class came out i was targeting this guy. I love his bars and his HR but i felt a pick at 4 was a little high. So i traded back and luckily got the guy we liked at 4.
Pros-Probably the best hole rec back in this year's class. I love his elite combines and bars that are all great or above.
Cons-Not elite in endurance and may not be able to play every snap on offense. Also has no return ability and does not have that breakaway speed on every play.
Rating-101.4 #1 Rb rated on my board #4 player on my list
Grade A I feel like we got a difference maker at a skill position and was able to move down to get him.
1 - 30 (30) Detroit * Wes (online) Bo Stenerud DT Jacksonville
Pre TC Rating-32/59 We had him listed at 62 rated looks good
POst TC Rating-+4/+2 to 36/61 Not a sexy position but in the right direction
POst Pre2-+1/-10 to 33/49 A littel Vol hit sadly
POst TC2-+9/-8 to 41/51 Man i really loved this kid too. He is a nice backup DT for us going forward.
POst PRe2.2-+12/-5 to 44/54 Such weird movement here but now more like i thought he was going to be
EOS2-+15/5 to 47/54 now our backup DT
POst PRe2.3-+17/-8 to 49/51 Backup DT for the NT spot.
Date of Birth: 2037-12-18
School: Jacksonville
Height: 6' 4" (Above Average)
Weight: 326 lbs. (Way Above Average)
Solecismic Score: 38
40 Time: 4.98
Bench Reps: 34
Agility: 7.57
Broad Jump: 9' 3"
Grade: 6.30
Developed: 35
First thoughts-WE suck and got auto'd. I like the kid and i had him on my list but the alert did not work no worries decent looking DT and we got better in the trenches which was our gameplan.
Pros-More set for a NT and we play a 4-3. Strong ox of a man with great instincts to put himself in the right place on each play.
Cons-Good run defender and decent finesse rusher but nothing to blow you away.
Rating-83.2 #2 DT on my list #17 player on my board
Grade C+ just an adequate pick here not shiny but not dull.
2 - 8 (40) Detroit * Wes (online) Malcolm Davidson G Bethune Cookman
Pre TC Rating-20/63
POst TC Rating-+4/-1 to 24/62 Good movement still 60 ish rated G
Post Pre 2-+5/-3 to 25/60 HIgh 50 rate G
POst TC2-+15/-3 to 35/60 COmpetition all over at the G position this kid is higher on the list of starters for us this year.
POst PRe2.2-+15/-3 to 35/60 May have the G starting gig the way it seems here.
EOS2-+11/-3 to 31/60 Did not win the starting G spot played sparingly
POst PRe2.3-+9/-15 to 29/48 4 Gs all about 48 rated lol all young
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Date of Birth: 2036-11-13
School: Bethune Cookman
Height: 6' 4" (Average)
Weight: 316 lbs. (Average)
Solecismic Score: 36
40 Time: 5.00
Bench Reps: 28
Agility: 7.76
Broad Jump: 7' 9"
Grade: 5.00
Developed: 16
First Thought-OK i liked this dude a ton on a good estimate i said he could be a high 60 rated starting G. I wanted to get the big heavies in this draft so i was pretty particular on a few guys i felt like should be long time starters.
Pros-Monster in the run game with 45% run block percentage and one of the best in this class.
Cons-Not overly strong and just a good pass blocker. He is a good athlete and does not take many plays off.
Rating-68 #4 G on my list and like 56th on the big board
Grade-B+ Looks like a raw solid starting good run blocking guard.
4 - 6 (102) Detroit * Wes (online) Everett Grant C California
Pre TC Rating-15/48 Not quite what i was expecting and he looks like what i thought
Post TC Rating-+4/+1 to 19/49 Let's see what PS2 does here....
POst Pre2-+4/-3 to 19/45 Not ideal but a backup C
POst TC2-+8/-3 to 23/45 Still just a backup C we like him but stop there i think
POst PRe2.2-+8/-2 to 23/46 Still looking decent just very very raw still too
EOS2-+9/-1 to 24/47 Just a backup C for us now
POst PRe2.3-+5/-14 to 20/34 Totally getting cut.
Date of Birth: 2038-04-13
School: California
Height: 6' 2" (Below Average)
Weight: 282 lbs. (Below Average)
Solecismic Score: 41
40 Time: 5.19
Bench Reps: 23
Agility: 7.72
Broad Jump: 7' 6"
Grade: 4.30
Developed: 24
First Thought-Run blocking future is lower then i hoped for but kid looks like a nice project at C. He may start who knows.
Pros-50 PLus blocking skills and no zero bars
Cons-Not a Superior run blocker and really not strong at the point of attack.
Rating-64 Rated #6 rated C in on my board and i really liked this center class this year
Grade-B Just ok he looks like he is decent but nothing i am overly excited about.
5 - 5 (133) Detroit * Wes (online) Renaldo Milons DE North Carolina State
Pre TC Ratings-27/51 Good looking kid was hoping on him since round 4 as i had him graded as a late 3rd rounder pick
POst TC Rating-+6/+1 to 33/52 Looks ike a starting 3-4 DE
POst PRe2-+5/-1 to 32/49 This dude looks really good here.
POst TC2-+12/-5 to 39/46 We moved to the 3-4 and i bet this kid jumps into more playing time.
POst Pre2.2-+11/-5 to 38/46 Good looking backup Run stuffing DE could start in a pinch
EOS2-+12/-4 to 39/47 Good looking 3-4 DE but we have him as our 5th DE
Post PRe2.3-+16/-4 to 43/47 Again good looking backup DE
Date of Birth: 2036-01-01
School: North Carolina State
Height: 6' 4" (Average)
Weight: 283 lbs. (Above Average)
Solecismic Score: 29
Grade: 5.60
Developed: 46
First THought-Why was he still here? Non Combine i guess and not overly huge PRS.
Pros-Hard hitter that will cause you to fumble. He is great in the run game and can play all three downs
COns-Weak bull rush technique and just decent pass rush in general. More of a run stuffing defensive end with some surprise pass rush numbers at times.
Rating-66.5 #10 De on my board
Grade B+ I like this kid more then most. Ideally a 3-4 monster DE but i can use him as a starter or fill in at DE against the Fudge Packers.
6 - 4 (164) Detroit * Wes (online) Orlando Sanders WR Missouri
Pre TC Rating-28/43
POst TC Rating-+2/-1 to 30/42 Still open to interp here but porbably a 38 rated WR
Post PRe2--3/-10 to 25/33 A little vol hit and a little shitty player
POst TC2-Cut
Date of Birth: 2036-08-06
School: Missouri
Height: 6' 0" (Average)
Weight: 199 lbs. (Way Below Average)
Solecismic Score: 9
40 Time: 4.50
Bench Reps: 7
Agility: 7.20
Broad Jump: 8' 6"
Position Drill: 44
Grade: 3.90
Developed: 49
First thoughts-Static bar that exceeds his combine, no zero bars, and good YAC
Pros-Great hands and can take the top off of defenses. He has great wiggle and makes defenders grab for his ankles or their ankles for that case.
Cons-That combine is rough rough. HIs sole should put him at 0 RR but it shows 13/39 so if that is anywhere near what i see here the FOF gods have shone down
Rating-55.3 #32 WR on my board and total Dart board pull here.
Grade B- If he sticks near what i see he makes the roster as a decent WR.
7 - 8 (200) Detroit * Wes (online) Rex Prior C San Diego
Pre TC Ratings-21/35 Nothing to write home about
POst TC Rating-+3/0 to 24/35 Special cut canidate!
POst RPe2-+4/+1 to 25/36 Nothing here most likely.
POSt TC2-Cut
Date of Birth: 2036-01-16
School: San Diego
Height: 6' 3" (Average)
Weight: 291 lbs. (Average)
Solecismic Score: 41
40 Time: 5.31
Bench Reps: 34
Agility: 8.00
Broad Jump: 8' 2"
Grade: 3.60
Developed: 26
First THoughts-Static bar and no zero bars to go with a great sole score.
Pros-Strong monster of a bull. Graduated in 3 years with a business degree this kid is the real deal
Cons-At first glance i could block better so he needs to jump/Boom/or creep to make the roster
Rating-41.9 8th C on my list
Grade-D+ Should have been a LFA signing but we let the coach pick so needs a boom to make the squad for us as a backup C which is probably his ceiling.
1 - 8 (8) Detroit * Wes (online) Tracy Houghtlin RB Stanford
Pre TC Ratings-56/68 Looks like we thought i had him at 72 rated.
POst TC -+4/-1 to 60/67 LIke this kid a TON
Post PRe2-+4/-3 to 60/65 Starting RB and pretty excited to see what he does for us this year
POst TC2-+9/-3 to 65/65 Bonified starter that we are hoping to take the next step for the offense this year.
POst PRe2-+9/-3 to 65/65 Still the same good looking kid
EOS2-+9/-3 to 65 Needs to take the next step and get more carries 2300 total yards in 2 years and 17 touchdowns
Post Pre2.3-+9/-3 to 65 Still the bonified starter for us
Date of Birth: 2036-12-23
School: Stanford
Height: 6' 2" (Way Above Average)
Weight: 216 lbs. (Average)
Solecismic Score: 37
40 Time: 4.43
Bench Reps: 19
Agility: 7.11
Broad Jump: 9' 11"
Position Drill: 40
Grade: 7.30
Developed: 67
First thoughts-WE had to let Jay go in the offseason and we wish him the best but as soon as this draft class came out i was targeting this guy. I love his bars and his HR but i felt a pick at 4 was a little high. So i traded back and luckily got the guy we liked at 4.
Pros-Probably the best hole rec back in this year's class. I love his elite combines and bars that are all great or above.
Cons-Not elite in endurance and may not be able to play every snap on offense. Also has no return ability and does not have that breakaway speed on every play.
Rating-101.4 #1 Rb rated on my board #4 player on my list
Grade A I feel like we got a difference maker at a skill position and was able to move down to get him.
1 - 30 (30) Detroit * Wes (online) Bo Stenerud DT Jacksonville
Pre TC Rating-32/59 We had him listed at 62 rated looks good
POst TC Rating-+4/+2 to 36/61 Not a sexy position but in the right direction
POst Pre2-+1/-10 to 33/49 A littel Vol hit sadly
POst TC2-+9/-8 to 41/51 Man i really loved this kid too. He is a nice backup DT for us going forward.
POst PRe2.2-+12/-5 to 44/54 Such weird movement here but now more like i thought he was going to be
EOS2-+15/5 to 47/54 now our backup DT
POst PRe2.3-+17/-8 to 49/51 Backup DT for the NT spot.
Date of Birth: 2037-12-18
School: Jacksonville
Height: 6' 4" (Above Average)
Weight: 326 lbs. (Way Above Average)
Solecismic Score: 38
40 Time: 4.98
Bench Reps: 34
Agility: 7.57
Broad Jump: 9' 3"
Grade: 6.30
Developed: 35
First thoughts-WE suck and got auto'd. I like the kid and i had him on my list but the alert did not work no worries decent looking DT and we got better in the trenches which was our gameplan.
Pros-More set for a NT and we play a 4-3. Strong ox of a man with great instincts to put himself in the right place on each play.
Cons-Good run defender and decent finesse rusher but nothing to blow you away.
Rating-83.2 #2 DT on my list #17 player on my board
Grade C+ just an adequate pick here not shiny but not dull.
2 - 8 (40) Detroit * Wes (online) Malcolm Davidson G Bethune Cookman
Pre TC Rating-20/63
POst TC Rating-+4/-1 to 24/62 Good movement still 60 ish rated G
Post Pre 2-+5/-3 to 25/60 HIgh 50 rate G
POst TC2-+15/-3 to 35/60 COmpetition all over at the G position this kid is higher on the list of starters for us this year.
POst PRe2.2-+15/-3 to 35/60 May have the G starting gig the way it seems here.
EOS2-+11/-3 to 31/60 Did not win the starting G spot played sparingly
POst PRe2.3-+9/-15 to 29/48 4 Gs all about 48 rated lol all young
1Date of Birth: 2036-11-13
School: Bethune Cookman
Height: 6' 4" (Average)
Weight: 316 lbs. (Average)
Solecismic Score: 36
40 Time: 5.00
Bench Reps: 28
Agility: 7.76
Broad Jump: 7' 9"
Grade: 5.00
Developed: 16
First Thought-OK i liked this dude a ton on a good estimate i said he could be a high 60 rated starting G. I wanted to get the big heavies in this draft so i was pretty particular on a few guys i felt like should be long time starters.
Pros-Monster in the run game with 45% run block percentage and one of the best in this class.
Cons-Not overly strong and just a good pass blocker. He is a good athlete and does not take many plays off.
Rating-68 #4 G on my list and like 56th on the big board
Grade-B+ Looks like a raw solid starting good run blocking guard.
4 - 6 (102) Detroit * Wes (online) Everett Grant C California
Pre TC Rating-15/48 Not quite what i was expecting and he looks like what i thought
Post TC Rating-+4/+1 to 19/49 Let's see what PS2 does here....
POst Pre2-+4/-3 to 19/45 Not ideal but a backup C
POst TC2-+8/-3 to 23/45 Still just a backup C we like him but stop there i think
POst PRe2.2-+8/-2 to 23/46 Still looking decent just very very raw still too
EOS2-+9/-1 to 24/47 Just a backup C for us now
POst PRe2.3-+5/-14 to 20/34 Totally getting cut.
Date of Birth: 2038-04-13
School: California
Height: 6' 2" (Below Average)
Weight: 282 lbs. (Below Average)
Solecismic Score: 41
40 Time: 5.19
Bench Reps: 23
Agility: 7.72
Broad Jump: 7' 6"
Grade: 4.30
Developed: 24
First Thought-Run blocking future is lower then i hoped for but kid looks like a nice project at C. He may start who knows.
Pros-50 PLus blocking skills and no zero bars
Cons-Not a Superior run blocker and really not strong at the point of attack.
Rating-64 Rated #6 rated C in on my board and i really liked this center class this year
Grade-B Just ok he looks like he is decent but nothing i am overly excited about.
5 - 5 (133) Detroit * Wes (online) Renaldo Milons DE North Carolina State
Pre TC Ratings-27/51 Good looking kid was hoping on him since round 4 as i had him graded as a late 3rd rounder pick
POst TC Rating-+6/+1 to 33/52 Looks ike a starting 3-4 DE
POst PRe2-+5/-1 to 32/49 This dude looks really good here.
POst TC2-+12/-5 to 39/46 We moved to the 3-4 and i bet this kid jumps into more playing time.
POst Pre2.2-+11/-5 to 38/46 Good looking backup Run stuffing DE could start in a pinch
EOS2-+12/-4 to 39/47 Good looking 3-4 DE but we have him as our 5th DE
Post PRe2.3-+16/-4 to 43/47 Again good looking backup DE
Date of Birth: 2036-01-01
School: North Carolina State
Height: 6' 4" (Average)
Weight: 283 lbs. (Above Average)
Solecismic Score: 29
Grade: 5.60
Developed: 46
First THought-Why was he still here? Non Combine i guess and not overly huge PRS.
Pros-Hard hitter that will cause you to fumble. He is great in the run game and can play all three downs
COns-Weak bull rush technique and just decent pass rush in general. More of a run stuffing defensive end with some surprise pass rush numbers at times.
Rating-66.5 #10 De on my board
Grade B+ I like this kid more then most. Ideally a 3-4 monster DE but i can use him as a starter or fill in at DE against the Fudge Packers.
6 - 4 (164) Detroit * Wes (online) Orlando Sanders WR Missouri
Pre TC Rating-28/43
POst TC Rating-+2/-1 to 30/42 Still open to interp here but porbably a 38 rated WR
Post PRe2--3/-10 to 25/33 A little vol hit and a little shitty player
POst TC2-Cut
Date of Birth: 2036-08-06
School: Missouri
Height: 6' 0" (Average)
Weight: 199 lbs. (Way Below Average)
Solecismic Score: 9
40 Time: 4.50
Bench Reps: 7
Agility: 7.20
Broad Jump: 8' 6"
Position Drill: 44
Grade: 3.90
Developed: 49
First thoughts-Static bar that exceeds his combine, no zero bars, and good YAC
Pros-Great hands and can take the top off of defenses. He has great wiggle and makes defenders grab for his ankles or their ankles for that case.
Cons-That combine is rough rough. HIs sole should put him at 0 RR but it shows 13/39 so if that is anywhere near what i see here the FOF gods have shone down
Rating-55.3 #32 WR on my board and total Dart board pull here.
Grade B- If he sticks near what i see he makes the roster as a decent WR.
7 - 8 (200) Detroit * Wes (online) Rex Prior C San Diego
Pre TC Ratings-21/35 Nothing to write home about
POst TC Rating-+3/0 to 24/35 Special cut canidate!
POst RPe2-+4/+1 to 25/36 Nothing here most likely.
POSt TC2-Cut
Date of Birth: 2036-01-16
School: San Diego
Height: 6' 3" (Average)
Weight: 291 lbs. (Average)
Solecismic Score: 41
40 Time: 5.31
Bench Reps: 34
Agility: 8.00
Broad Jump: 8' 2"
Grade: 3.60
Developed: 26
First THoughts-Static bar and no zero bars to go with a great sole score.
Pros-Strong monster of a bull. Graduated in 3 years with a business degree this kid is the real deal
Cons-At first glance i could block better so he needs to jump/Boom/or creep to make the roster
Rating-41.9 8th C on my list
Grade-D+ Should have been a LFA signing but we let the coach pick so needs a boom to make the squad for us as a backup C which is probably his ceiling.