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Post by Jimmy Johnson on Jul 9, 2022 7:17:47 GMT -5
So in the defensive philosophy manual the chart for the different coverage types breaks all the routes down into three categories: short outside, short middle and long. Was wondering everyone’s take on where all the different routes fall into these categories. This is how I’ve always viewed it:
1, 3, 5, F, W - short outside 0, 2, 4, 6 - short middle 7, 8, 9, D - long
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Post by Nick on Jul 9, 2022 7:33:11 GMT -5
Yeah I know what you mean, I have noticed this. But I don't think there is any getting away from the fact that there are intermediate routes.
This means it does leave us in the dark as to how the defenses perform against them. We can have an educated guess though.
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Post by SteelStone on Jul 9, 2022 12:39:53 GMT -5
So in the defensive philosophy manual the chart for the different coverage types breaks all the routes down into three categories: short outside, short middle and long. Was wondering everyone’s take on where all the different routes fall into these categories. This is how I’ve always viewed it: 1, 3, 5, F, W - short outside 0, 2, 4, 6 - short middle 7, 8, 9, D - long Wouldn't route 5 & 6 fall into medium range? ...
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Post by Jimmy Johnson on Jul 9, 2022 13:24:29 GMT -5
So in the defensive philosophy manual the chart for the different coverage types breaks all the routes down into three categories: short outside, short middle and long. Was wondering everyone’s take on where all the different routes fall into these categories. This is how I’ve always viewed it: 1, 3, 5, F, W - short outside 0, 2, 4, 6 - short middle 7, 8, 9, D - long Wouldn't route 5 & 6 fall into medium range? ... Technically yes but the defensive philosophy only mentions short outside, short middle and long. So where does those 5, 6 and W routes actually fall?
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Post by Jimmy Johnson on Jul 9, 2022 13:31:27 GMT -5
Even the 3 and 4 routes come into question. A view of a QB card shows that short passes are classified as (0-10) but 3 and 4 routes in the playbook are 9-12. Long are considered 21+. So when looking at coverages what is best for 3,4,5,6 and W when they fall in that 11-20 range because it doesn’t talk about intermediate routes in the defensive philosophy manual.
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Post by BgBob on Jul 22, 2022 16:23:37 GMT -5
The route tree has 14 plays I would say S,F,0,1,2,3,4 are all your short routes 5,6,7,8,9,W,D are your long routes.
When looking at the route tree picture in the Offense philosophy it shows Screen and Wheel off the same line with S-short and W-long.
That is my thoughts and it make sense having equal number of long and short passes.
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Post by tzach on Jul 24, 2022 10:27:27 GMT -5
Even the 3 and 4 routes come into question. A view of a QB card shows that short passes are classified as (0-10) but 3 and 4 routes in the playbook are 9-12. Long are considered 21+. So when looking at coverages what is best for 3,4,5,6 and W when they fall in that 11-20 range because it doesn’t talk about intermediate routes in the defensive philosophy manual.
my take on this issue is that all defensive calls are somewhat neutral to mid-range passes (3-4-5-6 routes), and the different calls help against specific passing directions/distances at the expense of exposing other routes (as mentioned in the defensive philosophy).
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