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Post by murph on Feb 19, 2022 18:16:24 GMT -5
One of two things about coming into Cleveland that did NOT excite me was Butch Brewer. I like pocket QBs with good sense rush, and to be good at one of the following: Accuracy or Timing (preferably both). Well, that's really not Butch Brewer. However, he surprised me when I took over and he did a pretty good job.
Format will be completions/attempts, total passing yards, TD, INT, QBR Week 13 vs Buffalo: 23/31, 255, 1, 1, 95.5 Week 14 vs Carolina: 20/28, 224, 2, 0, 118.7 Week 15 vs Pittsburgh: 24/34, 234, 1, 0, 99.4 Week 16 vs Tampa Bay: 18/26, 239, 0, 1, 82.1 Week 17 vs Baltimore: 25/36, 231, 2, 1, 93.6
Admittedly, I made some game planning mistakes vs. Tampa Bay, and his play suffered from it. But if you look at his stats for the year:
341/554, 3459, 13, 15, 75.9
You'll see he played very well for me compared to Brian and Simon:
5 games with me: 110/155, 1183, 6, 3, 97.9 11 games other: 231/399, 2276, 7, 12, 67.4
I like to believe the hype that my gameplanning is so great... but the truth is that it is NOT. It's either me or the system. It's not me, that just leaves the system. In the right system, this guy can be a very efficient and effective QB. Just wait until he's fully developed, and his AI is a little better.
No point here, just wanted this around to watch as his career goes on... to see how he continues to do.
Wouldn't mind other points of view on why he suddenly became an efficient QB seemingly overnight. To be honest, I never really understood QBs. I just know what I wanted in a QB. These few games are making me reconsider, and a discussion on this subject would be an awesome way to learn more about this part of the game.
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Post by Nick on Feb 20, 2022 3:08:56 GMT -5
You can never under estimate dice rolls, especially with a small sample size. We did very little different with our passing attack this year. Same OC, personnel much the same. Yet the QBR difference was huge.
Also, Brewer's chief weakness is sense rush. That won't be measured looking at QBR.
He has probably earned a run next year, but I wouldn't take anything from 5 games.
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Post by julioriddols on Feb 20, 2022 7:56:15 GMT -5
I think every QB has a "sweet spot" that they will play best at and this changes heavily based on personnel and how they are used. The right mix of short/med/long and the right receivers running the right routes goes a long way, then playing to strengths accounts for the rest. Also can't underestimate the value of a good OL and support in the run game.
If you can dial in the right frequency and right personnel and protect a guy, just about anyone can be a star IMO. Some guys just have a way smaller sweet spot than others. There is a benefit to learning how to use a limited QB because you can save money and spend that on the supporting cast, so guys like tzach who have mastered the use of "timing" can really make out like bandits with random schlubs off the street. In NY, the Jets have mastered the use of a guy with a maxed RD bar.. I really think that is Fernando O'Connor's big thing. It is why he plays like a beast in their offense, which is geared to perfectly use a QB who knows what to do with the ball and makes good decisions. It helps that he gets to throw to Crowninshield, but a lot of the sustainability in the Jets offense I suspect comes down to that RD bar.
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Post by KO on Feb 21, 2022 12:27:57 GMT -5
I think every QB has a "sweet spot" that they will play best at and this changes heavily based on personnel and how they are used. I think there is merit in this. Running an Air Coryell I tend to favor accuracy over timing since most of the favorable routes on the tree are deeper patterns. Bernard (92 acc) actually had a decent season filling in for Amos Brock and threw fewer interceptions than you might expect from a QB of his overall rating throwing deep as often as he did. There were games we went deep 7+ times which, for a lot of QB's, would be disasterous. Going to be interesting to see early next year if Brock struggles early if I leave the same offense/play calling intact. I'm sure I'll change it up a bit, since we just had nothing to lose this season, but still going to be tempted to see in the early games.
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