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Post by jeremy on Jan 16, 2023 11:27:09 GMT -5
I have a bit of a conundrum as any team we face who gameplans us will likely double cover Goetz. Since his RR is 98 it has been difficult to find another receiver to throw out there to alleviate the DC strategy. And I don't want to stop throwing his way obviously. Getting him the ball is inefficient. Should I just put up with it? Today he had 7 catches for 120 yards, but with 17 targets.
I have some thoughts on what to try next, but open to suggestions.
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Post by Sawblade300 on Jan 16, 2023 11:57:53 GMT -5
Trade him. I'll give you a 3rd cause he seems like a headache.
But seriously...trade him to me.
No, okay...really seriously. I heard somewhere that when you have players like him...GIVE THEM THE BALL!! No matter the DC or what coverage defenses throw at you. They will make plays. He had 120 yards on seven catches. Yeah he had 17 targets, but still, he was good. I see you had 14 hurries against. Were many of these part of those targets? This would then be an O-line issue and not a DC issue.
Then again, you always have the option to trade him to me.
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Post by jeremy on Jan 16, 2023 15:51:30 GMT -5
Trade him. I'll give you a 3rd cause he seems like a headache. But seriously...trade him to me. No, okay...really seriously. I heard somewhere that when you have players like him...GIVE THEM THE BALL!! No matter the DC or what coverage defenses throw at you. They will make plays. He had 120 yards on seven catches. Yeah he had 17 targets, but still, he was good. I see you had 14 hurries against. Were many of these part of those targets? This would then be an O-line issue and not a DC issue. Then again, you always have the option to trade him to me. Yeah, not the solution I was considering... The O line hasn't allowed many sacks but a lot of hurries. That is more on gameplan (throwing long) and sense rush of the QB, correct? |
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Post by Strubbel94 on Jan 16, 2023 16:06:18 GMT -5
I have a bit of a conundrum as any team we face who gameplans us will likely double cover Goetz. Since his RR is 98 it has been difficult to find another receiver to throw out there to alleviate the DC strategy. And I don't want to stop throwing his way obviously. Getting him the ball is inefficient. Should I just put up with it? Today he had 7 catches for 120 yards, but with 17 targets. I have some thoughts on what to try next, but open to suggestions. Actually I'm the first team who double teams you efficiently this season. The problem is not the doubel coverage or Goetz, the problem are the amount of targets and maybe even the play selection (would need a more in depth look). You also onyl running two formations with a bit of 104 sprinkled in. Edit: Granted he wasn't target to often this season, just in our game 17 might be a bit much. And you're spreading the ball around enough (lookign at targets), but in that case it might really be the play selection, probably your players aren't in psotions where they can deliver their best. Its tough to evaluate without seeing your playbook and gameplans and a elite GM like tzach could tell you more about this stuff. You also have a 2nd Receiver who can take the load and go for tons of yardage. Your TE who is absoluetly amazing. If I would be in your psoition I would invest a lot of time in building a new playbook and test a lot this stuff in single player. I hope I don't come across like I know anything better, but from my observation double coverage isn't really your problem. It mgiht be a problem against the elite GMs who pay mor attention i detail, but foor these situation you still have great weapons on your roster, even Natale is good enough to have hgue games and mor eprimary routes. Just my 2cts Oh and GG btw |
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Post by jeremy on Jan 16, 2023 18:06:59 GMT -5
I have a bit of a conundrum as any team we face who gameplans us will likely double cover Goetz. Since his RR is 98 it has been difficult to find another receiver to throw out there to alleviate the DC strategy. And I don't want to stop throwing his way obviously. Getting him the ball is inefficient. Should I just put up with it? Today he had 7 catches for 120 yards, but with 17 targets. I have some thoughts on what to try next, but open to suggestions. Actually I'm the first team who double teams you efficiently this season. The problem is not the doubel coverage or Goetz, the problem are the amount of targets and maybe even the play selection (would need a more in depth look). You also onyl running two formations with a bit of 104 sprinkled in. Edit: Granted he wasn't target to often this season, just in our game 17 might be a bit much. And you're spreading the ball around enough (lookign at targets), but in that case it might really be the play selection, probably your players aren't in psotions where they can deliver their best. Its tough to evaluate without seeing your playbook and gameplans and a elite GM like tzach could tell you more about this stuff. You also have a 2nd Receiver who can take the load and go for tons of yardage. Your TE who is absoluetly amazing. If I would be in your psoition I would invest a lot of time in building a new playbook and test a lot this stuff in single player. I hope I don't come across like I know anything better, but from my observation double coverage isn't really your problem. It mgiht be a problem against the elite GMs who pay mor attention i detail, but foor these situation you still have great weapons on your roster, even Natale is good enough to have hgue games and mor eprimary routes. Just my 2cts Oh and GG btw I absolutely think you are clearly a better GM Max, so I take no offense. I am going to do a complete re do of the play selection and see what happens. I have an off week, so I have some time to get this done. I have said it before but this part is the biggest drag for me because of the shitty UI. But dammit, I will do it... |
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Post by Strubbel94 on Jan 16, 2023 18:15:49 GMT -5
Actually I'm the first team who double teams you efficiently this season. The problem is not the doubel coverage or Goetz, the problem are the amount of targets and maybe even the play selection (would need a more in depth look). You also onyl running two formations with a bit of 104 sprinkled in. Edit: Granted he wasn't target to often this season, just in our game 17 might be a bit much. And you're spreading the ball around enough (lookign at targets), but in that case it might really be the play selection, probably your players aren't in psotions where they can deliver their best. Its tough to evaluate without seeing your playbook and gameplans and a elite GM like tzach could tell you more about this stuff. You also have a 2nd Receiver who can take the load and go for tons of yardage. Your TE who is absoluetly amazing. If I would be in your psoition I would invest a lot of time in building a new playbook and test a lot this stuff in single player. I hope I don't come across like I know anything better, but from my observation double coverage isn't really your problem. It mgiht be a problem against the elite GMs who pay mor attention i detail, but foor these situation you still have great weapons on your roster, even Natale is good enough to have hgue games and mor eprimary routes. Just my 2cts Oh and GG btw I absolutely think you are clearly a better GM Max, so I take no offense. I am going to do a complete re do of the play selection and see what happens. I have an off week, so I have some time to get this done. I have said it before but this part is the biggest drag for me because of the shitty UI. But dammit, I will do it... Maybe I wrong though no gurantees. But I think you have the weapons to achieve a better compeltion pct. and more yds/a Sometimes its just tinkering until you find somethign that works. Me for example I have trouble gettign my run game going, a few seasons back I never had problems running the ball but nowadays my RBs seem to struggle and its a lot of work to analyze this stuff and figure out what you could do better. A good starting point is looking at the logs and look who performs badly on any given play. For example my LG seems to do poorly the past few games, maybe tiem to bench him or run more to the right or switch him around. But Im sure you'll figure it out at least you don't have to battle with Nick anymore so you will always have a chance  |
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Post by tzach on Jan 17, 2023 8:35:38 GMT -5
I have some thoughts on what to try next, but open to suggestions.
schematically, the easiest way for me is to put the high RR guy on outlets and throw to the slot rec, TE and RB, in this order of # targets. this assumes you have no decent #2 wr. i'd throw short to the high RR guy on 3rd downs and RZ.
i wouldn't waste throws on 1st and 10 poss
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