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Post by Nick on Jul 18, 2021 15:34:13 GMT -5
Rob put forward an idea about cutting the pool of players to be evaluated down. Maybe after 10-15 years a player is no longer eligible if he has never made the final 5.
Any thoughts on this? Or other suggestions for refining the procedure?
Would this suggestion be an improvement to the system we are currently rolling with?
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Post by Joel on Jul 18, 2021 15:35:25 GMT -5
I think it needs cutting. It’s gone stale with the same guys getting pushed forward every year
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Post by Nick on Jul 18, 2021 16:54:00 GMT -5
I guess the downside is it would take more work to figure out who is still eligible. Not that I am against the idea.
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Post by ManWithNoName on Jul 18, 2021 17:08:00 GMT -5
I liked Joel's idea of taking them out of consideration after they appear on the ballot so many times. If you're on the ballot 5+ times and can't get in then it's time to start talking about other players.
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Post by hildebrand on Jul 18, 2021 19:14:09 GMT -5
Rob put forward an idea about cutting the pool of players to be evaluated down. Maybe after 10-15 years a player is no longer eligible if he has never made the final 5. Any thoughts on this? Or other suggestions for refining the procedure? Would this suggestion be an improvement to the system we are currently rolling with? I think taking a player off the ballot if they haven't been inducted within 10 years of their retirement makes sense. I think in the NFL a player can only be on the ballot for around 10 years anyway, however, they aren't considered for 5 years after their retirement. We consider players immediately, but a 10 year limit would trim down the list quite a bit.
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Post by ezlee2 on Jul 18, 2021 20:03:25 GMT -5
I did tell Nick that there should be an exception for any player that was in the final 5 at any point.
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Post by ManWithNoName on Jul 18, 2021 20:08:33 GMT -5
This rule would only be eliminating guys we already don’t talk about. Also would be eliminating guys that we overlook. Think Joel’s proposed rule makes more sense.
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Post by hildebrand on Jul 18, 2021 20:33:59 GMT -5
If guys aren't good enough to even get in the final 5 within 10 years of retirement, they shouldn't receive greater consideration later just because we're tired of talking about the same players. I say we put a 10 year from retirement cutoff for all players. If the player isn't in the HoF by then, they aren't good enough. Especially true if they're not even good enough to make the final 5.
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Post by ezlee2 on Jul 18, 2021 21:05:33 GMT -5
There are multiple factors that open windows for players. I see no reason to remove any of them when we’re just thinning out. How many guys ware we talking about? Not many and it should mean something if even as an alternative to the veterans committee of the NFL.
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Post by Nick on Jul 19, 2021 12:49:03 GMT -5
Maybe the selectors should vote on these proposals. Rob's idea, Joel's idea and stay the same. I think each proposal needs clarifying in more detail.
I am cool whichever way we go. In real terms I see either change as having a fairly limited impact in real terms.
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Post by Joel on Jul 19, 2021 13:36:54 GMT -5
My idea was that if someone has made the final 5, 5 times and they have been rejected on every occasion, they should no longer be eligible like Blake, Banks and Delcorio.
It’s negligible to the overall affect, as I think we just keep on saying no to them, but on the odd occasion where we need to debate them, it’s just tiring, as we’ve had the in depth conversation at least a gagillion times.
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Post by ezlee2 on Jul 19, 2021 14:24:53 GMT -5
My idea was that if someone has made the final 5, 5 times and they have been rejected on every occasion, they should no longer be eligible like Blake, Banks and Delcorio. It’s negligible to the overall affect, as I think we just keep on saying no to them, but on the odd occasion where we need to debate them, it’s just tiring, as we’ve had the in depth conversation at least a gagillion times. I completely disagree. Especially considering how fickle and inconsistent this has been at times in regards to what GMs were involved etc... If a player was good enough to make the final 5 they shouldn't be penalized. Plus, over the years criteria has changed...
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Post by clown on Jul 19, 2021 14:30:58 GMT -5
question. I dont pay any attention to this because I dont know any of these players so far or how this works. 1. can anyone vote? 2. who suggests the players? 3 where would I go to find every player who is in this Hall of Fame?
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Post by hildebrand on Jul 19, 2021 15:09:35 GMT -5
question. I dont pay any attention to this because I dont know any of these players so far or how this works. 1. can anyone vote? 2. who suggests the players? 3 where would I go to find every player who is in this Hall of Fame? Anyone on the HoF committee gets a vote, but there are no restrictions to join so everyone is welcome. Anyone on the committee can suggest players. There's a HoF project page somewhere. I think under History, maybe.
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Post by rush27 on Jul 19, 2021 15:26:44 GMT -5
question. I dont pay any attention to this because I dont know any of these players so far or how this works. 1. can anyone vote? 2. who suggests the players? 3 where would I go to find every player who is in this Hall of Fame? redzoneblitz.boards.net/thread/262/rzb-hall-fame
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